VPRO Radio interview (10 April 96) Transcribed by Ronald Veldhuis. [Thurston Moore] I took one guitar lesson when I was thirteen. I had a guitar and I brought my guitar into this class full of kids with guitars. And I didn't have a case and I remember like, kids looking at me like I was some sort of charlatan. May I was. But that was the only guitar lesson I ever took. [Thurston Moore] I think a lot of people after they make some radical kind of musical statement. A lot of the times they get more involved with wanting to deal with more traditional aspects, which some people think is kind of boring. But I think it's kind of interesting when radical musicians try to get involved with that. Because I think it's a desire of them to sort of be more in tune to kind of the common situation in a way. [Interviewer] Do you think that you are getting more traditional? [Thurston Moore] I think we sort of do get involved with wanting to use more traditional ideas and people don't like it when we do that. Because it just sounds like we're not satisfying them as far as breaking barriers. And to exist solely just to break barriers for people is not really what Sonic Youth really wants to do. At this point in time there's always... there's so many people who are sort of aware of us, that you have a lot of people who are just like... they want to have the Sonic Youth experience that they had at a certain point. And so, you have a lot of people who were there at the beginning, who think maybe it was all over after Sister. And I remember there were a lot of people who thought it was all over after Confusion is Sex which was our second record. And they never really wanted to hear anything else. So, I mean it's kind of interesting. But then I meet a lot of young people who... the first thing they ever heard was Goo and anything else doesn't really mean that much to them. So it's all very personal. [Interviewer] Choose between Sister or Washing Machine. [Thurston Moore] I mean I'd have to say Washing Machine because it's more concurrent with how I'm living now, and I don't really have any desire to sort of repeat the past. But uhm. I mean Sister is such an interesting record for me because at the time it was sort of the kind of record we did and nobody made such a big deal out of it. But it's the one record that sort of seems to have been the record that all these kids were kind of listening to as they were getting into music who are younger than me. And they always talk about Sister as being this thing that turned them on to music other than Punk Rock and Hardcore or whatever like that. And so I feel really good about Sister. So, I mean on one level maybe I should choose Sister because it has already proven to be personally successful for me. Whereas Washing Machine is still a baby. You know. So maybe Sister.